The first preview of the new skinny came with the track "Optimissed" on the soundtrack to the movie Underworld and I must say that I was very surprised when I heard it because it was so different from the Skinny Puppy that I'm used to listen to, and 'The Greater Wrong of the Right' made me think of Ogre's project ohGr, it sounds so radio friendly, why did you change the sound that much?
- "There has been a long history between this record and 'The Process', almost 10 years since we entered the studio since the last album. The band split up and we both went separate ways and worked on separate projects for 8 years, I did Download and Ogre did his thing. I started to running in to Ogre after we were offered to do a show in Germany and we started to see each other again as people and as friends. We realised a lot of things and we became really close again and had ideas of rebuild Skinny Puppy again. So the reason to the new sound is the death of a band and with the rebirth of a band it's a new band. Skinny Puppy was never about making the same record twice it was always different depending on where we were at in that point of life and we always tried to capture that moment. This album is simply once again about capturing this moment with the people that we are with now and the reunification of us as friends again. I think that Mark Walk had amazing ideas of bringing together the music. Normally we are so deep inside our own lairs but he maid us see more simplified ideas and bringing together a stronger album for us to re-enter with, because now he gives us the opportunity to be weirder and more experimental, we started from the beginning and more simple."

Another thing that also surprised me is that you don't use as much samples as you did before, and with current world order there must be much material to use, how come?
- "You can't really do it as much as you used to be able to, if you are referring to spoken words, samples of presidential people speaking its not as easy to use those things anymore and its certainly not as easy to use things from films or things that we used to use a lot in the old days. We found it more appropriate to trying to make a record that was a step forward from 'The Process' and some people have said the this is the 'Process' done right and I think that in a way that's right and, that's were we left it off and I'm super proud of the album. Its hard to explain it all but from within the band the feeling is right and we can see it growing and that gives us inspiration to continue."

Fans and media have their opinion about the album but what's interesting is what you think about it, how did it feel to work with it?
- "If we ever made an album that was specifically for a review purpose we would probably not exist because in the beginning we where very sensitive when it came to reviews, we used to get ripped to shreds and we where really lucky to survive that period. We made music for our self from day one and we are still doing the same thing."

How does the future of Skinny Puppy look, will you continue to play as Skinny Puppy or will you concentrate on you own side projects?
- "I have just dedicated 8 years to Download and now I would like to see another 8 years go back into Skinny Puppy again. I think that the band has the most special magic of all the people and things that I have done. And working with Ogre and everybody in the project has been amazing for me."

Will you continue in this way or will you go back to more dark and twisted sound?
- "It's easier for us to gravitate towards the darkness than to be dark and gravitate to the light and we will probably end up there again. But I think that this time it will be more in control, I think that we used to be unaware of our potential and strength to control what we were doing. I think that we are stronger now and I hope to be inspired of the results because I don't really know."

What's the difference between cEvin/Ogre today and cEvin/Ogre 10 years ago?
- "That we show a healthy amount of respect, appreciation and love to the things we have done and that we don't fight anymore. Its unbelievable actually, it's like my family, the closest thing that I can say to family is this band and we really appreciate the time we have together and that's the difference because we didn't do that before."

Every time I look at my 'Ain't it dead yet?' DVD I wish that I could have been there and see it with my own eyes, Skinny Puppy is certainly something special on stage. What can we expect from the show tonight?
- "If you like 'Ain't it dead yet?' I'm sure you will love the show to night, I think that Ogre is a theatrical thing you need to see in person, he's just a great performer to witness. The songs are one thing but to see them being performed in the way they are that's something different. It's something that you just have to experience." We have new band members now, William Morrison on guitar/bass and Justin Bennett (Professional Murder Music, Thrill Kill Kult) on drums."

How did it feel to work with new members and how did you find the right ones?
- "It took a long time to find out who those right people were, I think that it was in 2001 that we knew that they where the right ones. Will has been making videos with us for a long time and he's also been involved with the ohGr project. Justin was the first one that was suggested to be the drummer and the first audition he just nailed it, and it was like "Oh yeah, he's definitely the guy!""

People on different American rightwing Christian websites and forums seem to find your live acts disturbing; they don't seem to be so happy about the graphics that you display during the show. They call you Nazis and a lot of other crazy things, any comments?
- "Hehe, really? I didn't know that. Hmm, do you think Skinny Puppy is Nazis?"

Haha, no way!
- "Well, I mean, censorship groups and so on... I haven't seen it as much now in this case because we are very open in our political thoughts. This show is more about politics again and what I'm interested in seeing is the reactions from place to place and people is quite supportive, I think most of the world agrees that the world, the world of America, is in a messed up condition and that's something that we speak about and the new world order. Its not a secret to any body anymore, its something that we all talk about and express everyday so it comes out in the music and the live show as well."

How would you describe Skinny Puppy with one single word to a person that never heard you?
- "Uhm... Yeah that's it! "U-h-m", Uhm?"

Okey, make it three words.
- "It's impossible, I really can't describe it and if I could I would have to quit."

Not much time left but is there something you would like to say to our readers?
- "If you want more information that's kind of up-to-date, go to www.lithany.net or www.subconsciousstudios.com, or maybe www.skinnypuppy.com?"

This interview was made 2005 by Adem Yigit and has been published with his consent. It was initially published on Neurozine.com
Skinny Puppy interview
January 1, 2004
Brutal Resonance

Skinny Puppy

Jan 2004
The first preview of the new skinny came with the track "Optimissed" on the soundtrack to the movie Underworld and I must say that I was very surprised when I heard it because it was so different from the Skinny Puppy that I'm used to listen to, and 'The Greater Wrong of the Right' made me think of Ogre's project ohGr, it sounds so radio friendly, why did you change the sound that much?
- "There has been a long history between this record and 'The Process', almost 10 years since we entered the studio since the last album. The band split up and we both went separate ways and worked on separate projects for 8 years, I did Download and Ogre did his thing. I started to running in to Ogre after we were offered to do a show in Germany and we started to see each other again as people and as friends. We realised a lot of things and we became really close again and had ideas of rebuild Skinny Puppy again. So the reason to the new sound is the death of a band and with the rebirth of a band it's a new band. Skinny Puppy was never about making the same record twice it was always different depending on where we were at in that point of life and we always tried to capture that moment. This album is simply once again about capturing this moment with the people that we are with now and the reunification of us as friends again. I think that Mark Walk had amazing ideas of bringing together the music. Normally we are so deep inside our own lairs but he maid us see more simplified ideas and bringing together a stronger album for us to re-enter with, because now he gives us the opportunity to be weirder and more experimental, we started from the beginning and more simple."

Another thing that also surprised me is that you don't use as much samples as you did before, and with current world order there must be much material to use, how come?
- "You can't really do it as much as you used to be able to, if you are referring to spoken words, samples of presidential people speaking its not as easy to use those things anymore and its certainly not as easy to use things from films or things that we used to use a lot in the old days. We found it more appropriate to trying to make a record that was a step forward from 'The Process' and some people have said the this is the 'Process' done right and I think that in a way that's right and, that's were we left it off and I'm super proud of the album. Its hard to explain it all but from within the band the feeling is right and we can see it growing and that gives us inspiration to continue."

Fans and media have their opinion about the album but what's interesting is what you think about it, how did it feel to work with it?
- "If we ever made an album that was specifically for a review purpose we would probably not exist because in the beginning we where very sensitive when it came to reviews, we used to get ripped to shreds and we where really lucky to survive that period. We made music for our self from day one and we are still doing the same thing."

How does the future of Skinny Puppy look, will you continue to play as Skinny Puppy or will you concentrate on you own side projects?
- "I have just dedicated 8 years to Download and now I would like to see another 8 years go back into Skinny Puppy again. I think that the band has the most special magic of all the people and things that I have done. And working with Ogre and everybody in the project has been amazing for me."

Will you continue in this way or will you go back to more dark and twisted sound?
- "It's easier for us to gravitate towards the darkness than to be dark and gravitate to the light and we will probably end up there again. But I think that this time it will be more in control, I think that we used to be unaware of our potential and strength to control what we were doing. I think that we are stronger now and I hope to be inspired of the results because I don't really know."

What's the difference between cEvin/Ogre today and cEvin/Ogre 10 years ago?
- "That we show a healthy amount of respect, appreciation and love to the things we have done and that we don't fight anymore. Its unbelievable actually, it's like my family, the closest thing that I can say to family is this band and we really appreciate the time we have together and that's the difference because we didn't do that before."

Every time I look at my 'Ain't it dead yet?' DVD I wish that I could have been there and see it with my own eyes, Skinny Puppy is certainly something special on stage. What can we expect from the show tonight?
- "If you like 'Ain't it dead yet?' I'm sure you will love the show to night, I think that Ogre is a theatrical thing you need to see in person, he's just a great performer to witness. The songs are one thing but to see them being performed in the way they are that's something different. It's something that you just have to experience." We have new band members now, William Morrison on guitar/bass and Justin Bennett (Professional Murder Music, Thrill Kill Kult) on drums."

How did it feel to work with new members and how did you find the right ones?
- "It took a long time to find out who those right people were, I think that it was in 2001 that we knew that they where the right ones. Will has been making videos with us for a long time and he's also been involved with the ohGr project. Justin was the first one that was suggested to be the drummer and the first audition he just nailed it, and it was like "Oh yeah, he's definitely the guy!""

People on different American rightwing Christian websites and forums seem to find your live acts disturbing; they don't seem to be so happy about the graphics that you display during the show. They call you Nazis and a lot of other crazy things, any comments?
- "Hehe, really? I didn't know that. Hmm, do you think Skinny Puppy is Nazis?"

Haha, no way!
- "Well, I mean, censorship groups and so on... I haven't seen it as much now in this case because we are very open in our political thoughts. This show is more about politics again and what I'm interested in seeing is the reactions from place to place and people is quite supportive, I think most of the world agrees that the world, the world of America, is in a messed up condition and that's something that we speak about and the new world order. Its not a secret to any body anymore, its something that we all talk about and express everyday so it comes out in the music and the live show as well."

How would you describe Skinny Puppy with one single word to a person that never heard you?
- "Uhm... Yeah that's it! "U-h-m", Uhm?"

Okey, make it three words.
- "It's impossible, I really can't describe it and if I could I would have to quit."

Not much time left but is there something you would like to say to our readers?
- "If you want more information that's kind of up-to-date, go to www.lithany.net or www.subconsciousstudios.com, or maybe www.skinnypuppy.com?"

This interview was made 2005 by Adem Yigit and has been published with his consent. It was initially published on Neurozine.com
Jan 01 2004

Adem Yigit

info@brutalresonance.com
Writer and contributor on Brutal Resonance

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